Science project no more

posted by Jeff | Saturday, September 13, 2008, 2:01 AM | comments: 0

Awhile back I mentioned how sometimes I get sucked into these science projects, and I end up not doing more productive things. That particular science project was me trying to build a drag-and-drop list. Sounds silly, right? Because there are existing solutions. But I had good intentions.

First off, the ReorderList control in the ASP.NET AJAX toolkit blows. It has all kinds of problems selecting stuff as you drag, the rendering forces you in to an unordered list, and it doesn't have the nice clean movement you see in other similar pieces around the Internet. The underlying code is hopelessly complex too, and I'm not sure why it has to be that way. More on that question in a moment.

My second motivation was just that, dammit, I want to see if I can do it. I remember the first time I saw the getBounds method in the AJAX framework, and I immediately thought it was a key time saver to creating a drag-and-drop list.

So what did I manage to do? I managed to do the dragging part, which came pretty easily. I managed to create a placeholder that lived where the item was coming from too. This object model that I had come up with, however, made it exceptionally illogical for altering the list as you were dragging. All along I already had something in mind for this control, and at this point I was just wasting time when there were solutions out there. Really, really good solutions.

Something else recently landed me on the Yahoo UI page, and I figured I'd give that a good look to see if it would do what I wanted with minimal pain. For the most part I think it can, but it wasn't nearly as easy as Scriptaculous. They use some odd naming conventions (like event handlers being called "observers"), but for the most part everything is so straight forward. The code is fairly easy to understand, and definitely has seen many rounds of refactoring. The Sortable object was exactly what I needed. I looked at JQuery as well, and it looks remarkably similar.

Why is the ASP.NET AJAX stuff so heavy? It reminds me of so many server-side controls that try to do everything but succeed at being useful only a small percentage of the time, primarily for those old-school line-of-business app developers. Although, does it really matter?

I'm not hating here, let me make that clear. The first time I wired up server-side stuff to the client-side, and then had two client-side objects interact, I totally understood why Microsoft's framework is pretty cool. It's just the stuff being built on top of it that doesn't seem to be as elegant and useful as I think it should be. But regardless, it thrills me that these frameworks can live peacefully together.


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